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	<title>Comments on: Honesty &amp; the Long Way Home</title>
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	<description>Black. Gay. Father. Vegetarian. Buddhist. Liberal.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the points raised in this entry, and yes, it is necessary to cut people some slack when they are trying to change or overcome years of conditioning.

HOWEVER, the guy is Black. Does that not teach him something about oppression, ridicule,&#160; put down of people who are different?&#160;

Anything at all?

I&#039;m not very forgiving on that score...... if you belong to a minority and you in turn &quot;persecute&quot; &quot;oppress&quot; someone from another minority group, then you have no right whatsoever to claim the the the freedom to live and love however you want, while denying others.&#160;

I don&#039;t care what the context is, ignorance and conditioning &quot;might&quot;explain, but do they not excuse!&#160;

I don&#039;t understand everything there is to understand about people, but that doesn&#039;t give me the right to put down people for that difference. To give you an example, Transgender [I have worked with a transgender person].... I don&#039;t understand the why&#039;s and wherefore&#039;s, but I do see the basic humanity of the people involved, and so it is my duty as a human being to extend respect for their right to be.

Is that really so fucking hard for people.

As for the notion that his masculinity would be threatened if he was SEEN with a gay person. Well&#160;stiff shit! I&#039;ve had similar masculinity affirming diatribes from one&#160;of my brothers who reckons he is more of man than me, because he sired children. And people tell me, the act of masturbation involves stroking one&#039;s dick!

Look, Mr T, I do understand what you are saying, but still my blood boils....turn the issues around, what if someone came out and spoke about their struggle to overcome their internalised fear of Blacks? Get me? But funny enough, we had one guy who from America, was Ex- Ku klux Klan interviewed on Australian television, who was actually raised in as a Klan member and he went through a series of questioning moments and ephiphanies.. that&#160;led to him leaving&#160; the Klan and is actively involved in fighting racism.

To him him regale that story, was very life affirming.

Now while I am wary, still, one has to give people their due... I was impressed how this ex-klan member changed his life and views,and is working to fight racism. Now if Kayne West got involved in fighting homophobia, and affirming PUBLICLY the goodness of Gays and Lesbians, without any qualification, THEN I will cut him some slack...

Until then me poor heart bleeds for &#039;im.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the points raised in this entry, and yes, it is necessary to cut people some slack when they are trying to change or overcome years of conditioning.</p>
<p>HOWEVER, the guy is Black. Does that not teach him something about oppression, ridicule,&nbsp; put down of people who are different?&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anything at all?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very forgiving on that score&#8230;&#8230; if you belong to a minority and you in turn &quot;persecute&quot; &quot;oppress&quot; someone from another minority group, then you have no right whatsoever to claim the the the freedom to live and love however you want, while denying others.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care what the context is, ignorance and conditioning &quot;might&quot;explain, but do they not excuse!&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand everything there is to understand about people, but that doesn&#8217;t give me the right to put down people for that difference. To give you an example, Transgender [I have worked with a transgender person]&#8230;. I don&#8217;t understand the why&#8217;s and wherefore&#8217;s, but I do see the basic humanity of the people involved, and so it is my duty as a human being to extend respect for their right to be.</p>
<p>Is that really so fucking hard for people.</p>
<p>As for the notion that his masculinity would be threatened if he was SEEN with a gay person. Well&nbsp;stiff shit! I&#8217;ve had similar masculinity affirming diatribes from one&nbsp;of my brothers who reckons he is more of man than me, because he sired children. And people tell me, the act of masturbation involves stroking one&#8217;s dick!</p>
<p>Look, Mr T, I do understand what you are saying, but still my blood boils&#8230;.turn the issues around, what if someone came out and spoke about their struggle to overcome their internalised fear of Blacks? Get me? But funny enough, we had one guy who from America, was Ex- Ku klux Klan interviewed on Australian television, who was actually raised in as a Klan member and he went through a series of questioning moments and ephiphanies.. that&nbsp;led to him leaving&nbsp; the Klan and is actively involved in fighting racism.</p>
<p>To him him regale that story, was very life affirming.</p>
<p>Now while I am wary, still, one has to give people their due&#8230; I was impressed how this ex-klan member changed his life and views,and is working to fight racism. Now if Kayne West got involved in fighting homophobia, and affirming PUBLICLY the goodness of Gays and Lesbians, without any qualification, THEN I will cut him some slack&#8230;</p>
<p>Until then me poor heart bleeds for &#8216;im.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read.</p>
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